"Not being able to say no": When Shark Tank's Jamie Kern Lima talked about "people pleasing" with Oprah Winfrey

Shark Tank's Jamie Kern Lima invited Oprah Winfrey on her The Jamie Kern Lima Show Podcast's July 2, 2024 episode. They talked about various exciting things including God, spirituality, intuition, people pleasing, learning to say no, and more.

In the second part of her podcast, the Shark Tank mentor asked Oprah about how she had been unable to say "no" until she reached the age of 40.

"Has that been a journey, like an evolution of you going from again, back to four years old, feeling that knowing of, "No grandma, I won't," just kind of that knowing, to your journey through people pleasing. You talk about not being able to say no until you're 40."

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Shark Tank mentor Jamie Kern Lima in talks with Oprah Winfrey: People pleasing, saying "no" and more

Jamie asked Oprah Winfrey about when she was young and how she used to tell herself what she wanted to respond to her grandma. She then asked the guest about the "journey" she had been of "people pleasing." The Shark Tank mentor also talked about "vibrational energy" and space.

"Because there's so many people going, "How do I feel those things? How do I get to that place? I want a higher, but I want a higher expression of myself in my life." And I'm trying to figure out how to get there, how to tune into it, how to feel it. And then how to listen to it, trust it and live the answer that I'm feeling," asked Jamie.

Oprah responded that it was about finding the "space" that brings "peace" to people. It can be different for everyone. She talked about finding "the thing" that calms people. It was where individuals can start their "alignment" with the higher power.

"Because that is what the higher power feels like. It feels like the calmest, sweetest, most comforting space within you and around you. And so if you can't identify that, then you don't actually really know yourself," responded Oprah.

She further stated that some people find their comforting space in their bathroom, some in the kitchen, and some in the shower. No matter where, after finding that space, people need to "lean" into that and that is what she said, she knew.

The guest, Oprah Winfrey stated that there are "forces" that are out there, trying to reach us and "speak" to us, to "guide" us. She also mentioned that everyone has them, and she has "hordes" of them.

The important thing, according to Oprah, was to make yourself "aware" of it. She further told the Shark Tank mentor that whenever a loved one passes on earth, especially a parent:

"You now have an angel that you know and you can call by name. Because where are all where's where's the energy of that person gone? And if that person loved you on earth, wherever the next realm is, that love never dies. And the spirit of that, particularly if you were, if it was a parent or somebody close to you, that spirit still is with you, that spirit still abides with you."

In the latter part of the segment, the Shark Tank investor learned about Oprah's relationship with her mother. She recalled how "deeper, stronger, grander, sweeter" than ever, it was on earth. Oprah added that it was "true" for all those who were open to "attune" to it.

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