Mark Zuckerberg has dropped a hot take during a nearly three-hour chinwag on The Joe Rogan Experience. The Facebook CEO went full philosophical on corporate culture, claiming it’s become "culturally neutered" and distanced from what he calls "masculine energy."
The man who gave us pokes on Facebook is now waxing poetic about the balance of energies in the workplace.
“Masculine energy I think is good, and obviously society has plenty of that, but I think that corporate culture was really trying to get away from it,” Zuckerberg said.
He continued: “It’s like you want feminine energy, you want masculine energy. I think that that’s all good. But I do think the corporate culture sort of had swung toward being this somewhat more neutered thing.”
The X-verse (formerly known as Twitter) wasted no time.
“He’s getting a divorce isn’t he,” one user quipped.
Another user didn’t hold back: “If anything, the social network was too kind to this guy.”
And then came the Andrew Tate comparisons:
“He read one Andrew Tate quote and thought he cracked the code of the universe 😅,” said one user.
While another added, “Nah bro’s been watching too much Andrew Tate.”
The roasting continued with someone suggesting we check his Spotify playlist:
“Somebody check his Spotify; I bet it’s all alpha male podcasts now 😭.”
Another user added: “At the very least he’s sleeping on the couch after 🤣.”
“Going through a midlife crisis realizing he hates the company culture that he created,” another user commented.
Mark Zuckerberg on The Joe Rogan Experience
So, what exactly did Zuckerberg say to unleash this tidal wave of internet snark? During episode #1863 of Rogan’s podcast, he went philosophical on what he termed as the corporate world's swing away from masculine energy.
In his view, these traits are getting the cold shoulder in the name of inclusivity and kindness. However, according to Zuckerberg, a little assertive, aggressive mojo could be beneficial for business success.
With three sisters and three daughters around him, the experience of growing up surrounded by women would shape Zuckerberg's view of gender dynamics at work. He did recognize that it was harder for women in an environment dominated by men and a balance between masculine and feminine energies would make the corporate culture work.
"So I'm, like, surrounded by girls and women, like, my whole life. And it's like...I don't know, there's something, the kind of masculine energy, I think, is good."
"And I do think that... all these forms of energy are good. And I think having a culture that, like, celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits that are really positive."
Zuckerberg also took a swipe at the narrative painting masculinity as toxic, suggesting that this viewpoint is a bit overblown and might be why corporate cultures have gone soft.
“I think it’s one thing to say we want to be kind of, like, welcoming and make a good environment for everyone. And I think it’s another to basically say that masculinity is bad. And I, I just think we kind of swung culturally to that part of the... spectrum where, you know, it’s all like, okay, masculinity is toxic. We have to, like, get rid of it completely.”
Meta's DEI programs get the axe
Now, these comments didn’t just float into the ether; they landed right alongside some major policy shifts at Meta. The company recently axed its diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs.
An internal memo from Meta’s VP of human resources, Janelle Gale, said they were pulling the plug on these initiatives due to the "changing legal and policy landscape" surrounding DEI efforts in the US.